Human Design & Living on Purpose w/ Megan Seamans - Bonus Episode

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I'm guessing you might have taken a personality test or two through

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work, curiosity, part of a program when you were in school, whether it's

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the Meyer, Briggs, the enneagram, DISC, or one of the various others.

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There's lots of different measures people have created to help us

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learn a little more about ourselves.

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I'm intrigued by each and every one of these.

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I'm not looking for cookie cutters.

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I'm all about tools that can help us have different ways of looking

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at ourselves, our experiences and about the way we react to things.

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This is why I was so excited to connect with today's guest, Megan Seamans, and

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learn about her expertise in human design.

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Welcome to The Grit Show growth on purpose.

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I'm glad you found us.

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I'm Shawna Rodrigues, and I'm honored to be leading you on today's journey

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as part of this community growing together as seekers and thrivers.

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Today, we're gonna talk more about human design and living on purpose.

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I'm sure you already know that living on purpose is something we

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care deeply about on The Grit Show something we'll talk about often

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human design is a newer concept.

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It was just a term I'd heard in passing.

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I like the sound of it though.

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I walked into it with a completely blank slate and I hope you do as well.

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Even if you don't connect with exactly how your profile is determined.

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I think there's a lot to be gained in learning about the various types and

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seeing what speaks to you, especially with the way Megan shares it.

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Megan is a certified energy coach and human design guide.

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She's a creator of rooted and wild, which you get to hear a little more about.

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She supports people to tap into their magic and confidently lead

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their life without people pleasing, fear or doubt standing in their way.

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Thank you so much for being here today, Megan.

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I'm so excited.

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I've been so excited all week for this conversation.

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Yay.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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I'm so glad you're here.

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And I'm also excited because we squeezed this adventure in, because Megan is

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about to go on an even bigger adventure.

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Do you wanna share with us where you're headed next week?

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I am.

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I have my one way ticket booked over to Scotland with little to no plans.

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The adventure takes me.

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That is a great way to do it.

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I love it.

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And as we get to know her better, we're gonna learn how that folds

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into her fabulous philosophy.

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So where are you today?

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Where are you talking to us from?

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Right now I'm in sunny, Orlando, Florida.

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Uh, yes.

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Trading the sunshine for the unpredictable Scottish weather.

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there you go.

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Well, it's getting to be a little too warm, probably Good time to trade.

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I'm sure when it comes like next February, you'll be wondering what

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it's like in Orlando, but right now it's not a bad time to trade.

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That's right.

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We had a brief conversation before we started and Megan got to learn

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that I know nothing about human design.

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And so I am very excited about this conversation, cuz I am learning

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right along with all of you about human design and how it connects

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with being able to live on purpose and how it connects to all of us.

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So Megan, why don't you share with us?

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Get us started, teach us about human design.

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I love it.

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So human design is literally the study of differentiation.

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So how all human beings are different.

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So there's actually 2 billion different configurations of a human design chart.

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Right?

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I know

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Yes.

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That's a lot.

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That's definitely different then personality charts.

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Yes.

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I've yet to see two charts that are the same, and I kind of love it.

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That's what made me fall in love with human design, because it

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really has this way of bringing your unique contrasts in where I was

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taking all these personality tests.

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And it would say I was an introvert on like Myer Briggs,

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but then, my astrology's Leo.

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And so I'm like, how do I put those together?

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Like, how am I this bold Leo, but also this introvert.

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And every time I took the enneagram, I tested as something different.

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And so I was so confused and human design really brings these

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contrasts in and it shows me.

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All of those results and the personality tests and different

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modalities they're correct.

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For me, human design just brought in those contrasts and showed me

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how they can all weave together.

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And so really what it is is it's your energetic blueprint.

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It shows you how your energy is made to show up with the least amount of

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resistance and the most amount of ease.

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I sound like a broken record in my human design sessions because I'm like,

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it's all about the amount of ease.

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I'm just constantly weaving that in.

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It is, it's such a gift.

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And it just it's like a permission slip.

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It's like coming back home.

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It's never brand new information.

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It's like a coming back home to, oh yeah.

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That's me like.

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I can feel that.

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So how it pulls that is from your birthday time and location.

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So it never changes.

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It's really your soul's essence.

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And it pulls from different modalities you've likely heard of before, like

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astrology, the chakra system, the ancient eyeing Cabala, and some quantum physics

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to bring together your human design.

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That's amazing.

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So how long, cause, it's a buzzword that I've heard at least the last

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few years, but I'm guessing it's been around a lot longer than that.

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So the system came together actually in the eighties.

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So not too long.

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However, of course, all of the different, modalities that kind of

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come into play are ancient wisdoms.

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So yeah.

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So when did you stumble onto it?

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How did you come to be connected to human design and learn all about it?

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Yeah.

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So I kind of, the first time I found human design, I was

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like, nah, that's not for me.

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Like.

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A little too?

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Hmm.

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Exactly.

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Exactly what I felt.

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I was like my birthday.

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Like you can't tell me anything about me by just my birthday.

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And I kind of like fought it for a bit.

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yes, well in the location.

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Cause I'm like, so if my mom would've been traveling, when I was

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born, I'd be a different person.

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Tell me more.

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Yes all the birthday time location it all can shift what

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shows up in your design, especially in those kind of smaller layers.

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There's kind of the main layer you'll usually hear about in your human

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design is your human design type.

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And that's definitely something we can talk about today.

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And there's so many small layers underneath that.

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If you're born in a different location, if you're born in a

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different hour, it's all about how the energy was moving through the

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universe at that time in that location.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's a little mystical.

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It's a little wild and the more I sit with people and have those

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moments of like, oh yes, that's me.

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The more I'm like, okay.

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It doesn't have to fully make sense.

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It..

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It just is.

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Yes, exactly.

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Exactly.

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So I fought it , for a while and a lot of clients kept asking me, do you

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know about this human design thing?

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Have you heard of this human design thing?

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Can you tell me about it?

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And so the more and more and more nudges I got the more I was

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like, okay, let me look into it.

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if you insist, I'll learn about this.

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And I love it because.

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She both talked about how wild it is, but it's also rooted in science.

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And later

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on, we're going to learn that she has a program that's rooted and wild.

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That totally connects that

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Even better than she realizes.

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It all comes together.

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So, and because I hadn't heard of it, I've heard of human design had no clue, it was

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connected to my birthdate and to where I was born and the time that I was born.

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I knew my birthday.

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I knew where I was born, but the time of my birth is a question mark.

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So we tried, I called my dad and got his voicemail and my partner just sent me

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a note that he did not successfully find my birth certificate, but he's an angel

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cuz he went looking for it and my desk is a scary place So he did not find it

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successfully, but we tried to do that.

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I'm now intrigued.

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So I'm gonna have to definitely , find out for sure for Megan, what mine is.

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Cuz I'm intrigued by this now, too.

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I want to find how it all fits together.

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So with your clients, is that usually your first step is to get that

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information and start from there in your conversations with them.

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It is.

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Yes.

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I love tapping into a client's human design.

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That's always gonna be the first session we have the first thing we

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dive into, because then we can weave it through our entire coaching series.

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And like I was saying at the beginning, if a client's asking

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me, can I do this or can I be this?

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Or can I try this strategy?

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My answer's always gonna.

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Yes.

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Now let's find the most life affirming most easeful pathway for

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you to do so let's find how your energy wants to move with that idea.

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Amazing, you haven't heard all the stuff, the background for this podcast,

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but that's kind of the point is helping people find how to move with ease.

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I love that you used that.

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Cuz that was the word I was using before.

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Cuz again, we wanna thrive.

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But part of this is about the people we've had our challenges,

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we've exercised our muscles.

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We've shown we can get through the things, but we wanna get to a place where we

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can stop pushing so hard and trying so hard and being up against things and to

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kind of just move with things and have things fall into place a little bit more.

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And this is about finding the path that is the right path, that things

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are in alignment, and you're able to flow with ease into what you're

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doing and what your goals are.

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So that's really what this helps guide.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It is truly magical to witness someone drop away from that conditioning, how

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they've been living through someone else's energy or through someone else's story

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and really fully embody their design.

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It's such a gift.

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And one of the biggest things that drew me into this system when I

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finally was like, okay, I'll look,

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Yes.

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So is everybody listening right now?

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I'm sure somebody.

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Um, somebody else's story.

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Yeah.

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Living in someone else's story.

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I can totally identify with that.

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In fact, I can hear that voice in my head right now of whose story I'm

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living, that I didn't even realize I was living, cuz I'm so busy doing it.

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I don't even realize where it's coming from.

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Sometimes.

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That's amazing.

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So for you in your own life, do you have some examples of what blocks

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you've been able to shift and move because you've been living in your

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design and better understand that.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So I can share a little bit about the five types in human

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design, which is that first layer.

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And that was really one of the first things that supported me to shift

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out of some of those stories and to get in alignment with my energy.

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So I found out I was a projector in human design and projectors are really known for

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being these guides, with like this bird's eye view perspective, and really here to

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offer that wisdom out in to the world.

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And they're also not here to do all the doing.

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So projectors are here to do their work in this block that

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feels really good for them.

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And then take rests, have spaciousness.

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For a projector.

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They're not meant to like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go all the time.

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And for me coming home to that, knowing of how I was trying to go, go, go,

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go, go, go, go keep up in my business.

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Like keep trying all the new strategies and bouncing around to all these different

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things and like, oh, that strategy worked for this person, so I'm gonna try it too.

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And I have to go faster and hustle harder.

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And when I could finally let go of that and say, see how spaciousness

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actually was my going fast.

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How spaciousness actually created a fast pace for me.

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It really opened my eyes up to like a new way of expressing myself,

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particularly in my business, but it definitely showed up in other ways, too.

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Oh, that's exciting.

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So do you wanna talk more about the other four?

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Yeah.

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So we have our projectors, like I just shared guide birds eye view.

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They're called non-energy types.

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Don't love that language.

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Cuz a lot of people are often like when they find out I'm a projector, they're

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like you have so much energy and it's not so much about having no energy.

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It's just about knowing how to.

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it?

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Yes.

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And, knowing where it, where it's coming from in particular,

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Mm.

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projectors can really, get energized from other people,

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places, spaces, opportunities.

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And so noticing when you're operating from like your aligned

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state versus like, oh, I'm just trying to operate like someone else.

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so Then we have our generators generators are really here to

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find the work they love doing.

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And fully love doing it.

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There is nothing like a generator who's fully lit up.

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And when a generator's fully lit up and satisfied with what they're doing, it

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gives energy to other people around them.

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And it also makes them super magnetic.

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So generators are really here to be these creative beings who do have the

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capacity to once they find their thing to like go and , please do not interrupt

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a generator when they are in their flow.

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Because that's a big, no go for them.

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Generators are really, they have this powerful internal, creative energy,

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and creative energy outside the box of anything, you know, about being creative.

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It's just doing what you love doing and being in that thing,

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that fully lights you up.

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Once you're in that flow, you are just in it.

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And so for a generator to feel like fully satisfied with the day that looks

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like using up their energy in a way that feels fully satisfying for them.

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And going to bed feeling like super complete and nourished with

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how they've used their energy.

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Yeah.

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Oh, that's awesome.

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the type we think you are, will find out soon.

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I was so intrigued.

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especially cuz again, like the time that we had is like, it might be

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the complete opposite, but that definitely sounds completely like me,

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but then I'm like, spaciousness...

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so yes.

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I'm so curious.

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Yes.

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Keep going.

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I wanna hear about rest of them

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yes.

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And you brought up a good point there, cuz like, yes, we all need spaciousness.

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We all need to be lit up.

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So if you're a projector and you're like, wait shouldn't I be lit up like

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it like a generator is yes, absolutely.

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And like generators who are like, wait, I need breaks and spaciousness.

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Absolutely.

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It's more about getting in alignment.

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Like for a generator.

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If you are not doing what lights you up, like majority percent

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of the time you're gonna drain that vital life force energy out.

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And we.

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Feel it like you can feel when a generator is not doing the things

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they love doing and it like closes off a little bit and you can feel

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when a projector is so drained out.

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So it's about getting to know your energy for sure.

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So next we have, manifesting generators.

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Manifesting generators are kind of like our multi-passionate people.

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They are like, they're fast movers, like our generators, and they're really

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finding clarity through their process.

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So once a manifesting generator finds, what their yes is,

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they're meant to go with that yes.

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And hold as many yeses as possible for them.

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So a lot of manifesting generators have been told their whole life

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that they're like flaky or frantic because they're going around, trying

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all the things and like doing a lot of different things all at once.

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And that is truly how their energy's meant to show up and shine.

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They are meant to hold as many yeses as possible for them and

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move with that process fast.

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Whenever I sit with a manifesting generator, I'm always.

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What are we doing?

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Where's the excitement?

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Like, what adventure are we going on?

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I can feel that buzz of, we're like doing things and we're doing them quick.

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Yes.

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And they're often told no, you need to focus here.

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You need to go in just one direction.

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You need to niche.

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You need to just do this.

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Stop trying to do all the things, just do this one thing, and that's

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completely against the grain for them.

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And that's so exciting for them to be validated on where their flow is.

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That's exciting.

Megan: 00:15:08

Yeah.

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You like hit the nail on the head of all the stories that any manifesting generator

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I've ever sat with has been told.

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You need to find one thing, you need to find your one thing, whether it's

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when they're going through university and they're trying to find their major

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or like in business and they need to niche, like you're so spot on.

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And so letting go of that and just letting yourself operate in non-linear path is so

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important for the manifesting generator.

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Yeah.

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It's so exciting for people to feel validated in

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where they are and who they are.

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Cuz there's so much against those things.

Shawna: 00:15:38

Keep going.

Shawna: 00:15:38

This is fun.

Shawna: 00:15:39

I like hearing about this.

Shawna: 00:15:40

Tell me more.

Megan: 00:15:41

We have two more types.

Megan: 00:15:42

So we have the manifestor manifestors are here to be bold unapologetic,

Megan: 00:15:48

and they're here to make impact manifests are here to initiate.

Megan: 00:15:51

So they really get the ball rolling for us.

Megan: 00:15:54

And they're here to like, bring these big ideas and new ways of doing things alive.

Megan: 00:15:59

And they don't necessarily love doing all the doing.

Megan: 00:16:02

They like to bring it alive and then it can be really supportive for them to

Megan: 00:16:04

have people who can support that process.

Megan: 00:16:07

But they're like here, they're ready to go and they're ready to do the thing.

Megan: 00:16:11

And their energy can feel quite intimidating to other people cuz they're

Megan: 00:16:14

quite protective with their energy.

Megan: 00:16:17

known for being lone wolfs.

Megan: 00:16:19

And that certainly doesn't mean that they don't need people in their life.

Megan: 00:16:24

, they just operate in a really like independent way.

Megan: 00:16:26

Like the manifestor child is the one who's left the building and

Megan: 00:16:29

you're like, where have they gone?

Megan: 00:16:30

What has happened?

Megan: 00:16:32

they're like, They are on the go.

Megan: 00:16:35

My brother, was a manifestor and it always cracks me up because he

Megan: 00:16:39

was almost born in a parking lot.

Megan: 00:16:40

And I feel like from the time of his birth, he was like,

Megan: 00:16:43

I am here and I ready to do

Shawna: 00:16:48

yes.

Shawna: 00:16:48

Try to keep up.

Shawna: 00:16:49

You do need to keep up though, but I'm going, so yes, keep up.

Shawna: 00:16:53

That's that's awesome.

Shawna: 00:16:55

And so that awareness that they do need people to help with some of the things

Shawna: 00:16:59

back here, but not telling them where to go and not directing them, but up so the,

Shawna: 00:17:05

all the things get done in that path.

Megan: 00:17:07

Yes.

Megan: 00:17:08

Yeah.

Megan: 00:17:08

Certainly control can be a huge like theme and shadow for them.

Megan: 00:17:12

Manifestor if they feel really controlled, they're likely gonna fall into this place

Megan: 00:17:15

of anger and feel like the world is just like constantly pushing against them.

Megan: 00:17:20

And another really important thing for a manifestor is to inform as they're going

Megan: 00:17:24

so that they can create some of that peace in their spaces and environments

Megan: 00:17:28

and opportunities that they're creating.

Megan: 00:17:30

So that we're all, not just like, where did they just go?

Megan: 00:17:32

Like what just happened?

Megan: 00:17:34

We're in the know.

Shawna: 00:17:37

Oh my gosh.

Shawna: 00:17:37

I think I, I'm not gonna start saying who I think I know like that, but I think that

Shawna: 00:17:42

I might know somebody's like that, so yes.

Shawna: 00:17:45

Okay.

Shawna: 00:17:45

Give us the, give us the fifth.

Megan: 00:17:47

Yep.

Megan: 00:17:47

The last type, these are our reflectors and reflectors actually

Megan: 00:17:51

only make up 1% of the population.

Megan: 00:17:53

So

Shawna: 00:17:54

Oh, wow.

Megan: 00:17:55

quite rare birds and they are very unique in their way

Megan: 00:17:58

that they express their energy.

Megan: 00:18:00

Reflectors are here to sample what's going on in the environment and

Megan: 00:18:04

then magnify and amplify it back out into the spaces that they're in.

Megan: 00:18:09

So reflectors are constantly like sampling what's going on around them.

Shawna: 00:18:13

Mm-hmm

Megan: 00:18:14

showing us from that place like what's happening.

Megan: 00:18:17

So reflectors can make really powerful and potent leaders simply

Megan: 00:18:20

by just being in their energy.

Megan: 00:18:21

You can see what's going on in the space, like what's happening in

Megan: 00:18:24

the environment that you're in.

Megan: 00:18:26

And they really can feel like all of the types , like one day might wake up

Megan: 00:18:31

and feel like a generator where they can just go one day, they might wake up

Megan: 00:18:34

and feel like a projector where they.

Megan: 00:18:37

Offer that guidance, they might wake up and feel like a manifesting generator

Megan: 00:18:40

where they like wanna try something new and see how the process goes.

Megan: 00:18:42

And so for the reflector, it's all about getting really present and

Megan: 00:18:46

letting your energy, ebb and flow.

Megan: 00:18:48

, reflectors can also be quite sensitive to what's going on

Megan: 00:18:51

because they are constantly like taking in that information.

Megan: 00:18:54

And so really noticing what's not theirs and being able to come to

Megan: 00:18:58

this grounded place within themselves.

Shawna: 00:19:00

Oh, wow.

Shawna: 00:19:01

That's intense.

Shawna: 00:19:02

And it's interesting to know that so few people have that, but that must be

Shawna: 00:19:05

a hard one for them to identify where they land, I feel like this, I feel

Shawna: 00:19:09

like this and trying to find their place,

Megan: 00:19:12

Yeah.

Megan: 00:19:12

I've been super honored to have a few reflector clients.

Megan: 00:19:16

I feel like I magnetize them in a little bit and I kind of love it

Megan: 00:19:19

cuz I learned so much from them.

Megan: 00:19:22

And they're always like very in tune with the collective and

Megan: 00:19:26

oftentimes they'll know things.

Megan: 00:19:27

And then they'll tell me about it.

Megan: 00:19:29

And then the next day they'll be like, you'll never.

Megan: 00:19:31

What email I just received.

Megan: 00:19:32

It said the exact thing that I told you yesterday, like they're very in tune.

Megan: 00:19:36

They're very connected and they have really brilliant wisdom to give us.

Shawna: 00:19:41

That's incredible.

Shawna: 00:19:42

And so then you also said that there's like 2 billion So then the five start

Shawna: 00:19:47

here and then tell me where it goes.

Shawna: 00:19:48

Tell me more about that.

Megan: 00:19:49

Yes.

Megan: 00:19:50

So there are 2 billion different human design configurations.

Megan: 00:19:53

So when you pull your human design chart, what you're gonna see is

Megan: 00:19:56

this body that has shapes and lines and colors, and you're gonna

Megan: 00:20:01

be like, what is happening here?

Megan: 00:20:03

So this is where.

Megan: 00:20:04

All of the different layers come in and where all of the different, like 2

Megan: 00:20:08

billion different configurations come in, because yes, we have these energy

Megan: 00:20:11

types and you're more than just one type.

Megan: 00:20:14

So along with your type, you'll have a strategy, which is your

Megan: 00:20:18

way of moving with life with the least amount of resistance.

Megan: 00:20:21

You have your authority, which is how you make decisions with

Megan: 00:20:25

the least amount of resistance.

Megan: 00:20:26

You have your profile, which is kind of like a costume to your purpose.

Megan: 00:20:31

You have all of the shapes.

Megan: 00:20:32

These are your centers and that's how your energy flows through your body.

Megan: 00:20:36

All of the lines are your innate strengths.

Megan: 00:20:38

So there's all these layers.

Megan: 00:20:40

So even if let's say you are a generator and you meet another generator, you

Megan: 00:20:45

two, aren't going to be the same or express that generator energy in the

Megan: 00:20:48

same way, because you might have a different authority or a different

Megan: 00:20:51

profile or different ways that the energy flows throughout your body.

Megan: 00:20:55

And so it's, it's layers, it's layers and layers and the human

Megan: 00:20:58

design rabbit hole never ends.

Megan: 00:21:00

Still learning things.

Megan: 00:21:03

So there's just layers of information and contrast that goes into it all.

Megan: 00:21:08

And you know, my biggest tip is if you're stepping into human design is

Megan: 00:21:12

like start one layer at a time, like really get to know your type and then

Megan: 00:21:15

go into the next layer and see how that lands and feels with you, and really

Megan: 00:21:19

integrated into your life as you go.

Shawna: 00:21:22

That's wonderful.

Shawna: 00:21:23

Can you give us a story, like one of your clients about how this has supported.

Shawna: 00:21:28

Them to be able to realize, to live with your purpose instead of it

Shawna: 00:21:33

being like this outside thing, that is something that is integrated.

Shawna: 00:21:36

So can you talk more about how your clients are able to use this

Shawna: 00:21:40

knowledge and information in their work with you to be able to do.

Megan: 00:21:43

Yeah, absolutely.

Megan: 00:21:44

I mean, to me, it's all about going through that deconditioning process,

Megan: 00:21:47

like noticing how you've been living against your design, how you've

Megan: 00:21:51

been creating friction in your life.

Megan: 00:21:53

And you've been trying to operate in a way that isn't actually

Megan: 00:21:56

your energetic operating system.

Megan: 00:21:59

Honestly the client that comes up is actually a reflector client.

Megan: 00:22:02

Learning that she was a reflector and learning that she had such

Megan: 00:22:06

unique energy made so much sense.

Megan: 00:22:09

It was like, everything clicked of like, oh, that's why my

Megan: 00:22:14

career path has felt so hard.

Megan: 00:22:16

That's why it felt so hard to find my footing, my place in school,

Megan: 00:22:20

like what I wanted to do in life, because when we could really come

Megan: 00:22:25

down to the lesson of you're meant to sample, you're meant to be fluid.

Megan: 00:22:28

You're meant to try different things and like, let life be a buffet.

Megan: 00:22:32

And you're tasting through the entire experience.

Megan: 00:22:35

And so giving herself permission to let go of being the one thing and like

Megan: 00:22:39

being so masterful at the one thing and giving herself permission to.

Megan: 00:22:44

Be fluid in what she was doing to experiment with different careers and

Megan: 00:22:48

like, see like, okay, let me try this out.

Megan: 00:22:50

See how it feels.

Megan: 00:22:51

Okay.

Megan: 00:22:51

That, that doesn't actually feel so good.

Megan: 00:22:53

Okay.

Megan: 00:22:53

Let me try this and letting that be okay.

Megan: 00:22:56

And not making that mean that she was quitting or that she hadn't come to

Megan: 00:23:00

completion was such a gift to witness and.

Megan: 00:23:04

To such a good expression of what it means to come home.

Megan: 00:23:07

She always wanted to do that, but it was letting go of those stories

Megan: 00:23:11

around what it means if you, give up on a career, what it means to close

Megan: 00:23:16

a chapter and let herself just be in that space of like, I just wanna

Megan: 00:23:20

be present and sample along the way.

Shawna: 00:23:22

Yes to get rid of the voices and start letting yourself

Shawna: 00:23:26

start with a fresh slate.

Megan: 00:23:27

yes.

Shawna: 00:23:28

That's so exciting.

Shawna: 00:23:30

And so you mentioned your brother and his design, which was his design.

Shawna: 00:23:34

Was he the manifestor the, okay.

Shawna: 00:23:36

Yes, the manifestor.

Shawna: 00:23:37

you've mentioned that you lost your brother.

Shawna: 00:23:39

Were you able to find his tight before you lost him or just

Shawna: 00:23:42

something you realized after.

Megan: 00:23:44

It was after.

Megan: 00:23:45

And it was actually one of the things that really drew me into human design.

Megan: 00:23:49

Like I felt the nudge, the nudge was okay, I'm gonna look at it.

Megan: 00:23:52

I'm gonna look at my own type, like great.

Megan: 00:23:55

Okay.

Megan: 00:23:55

Yeah.

Megan: 00:23:56

I'm starting to see these things within me.

Megan: 00:23:58

Things started to click within my own design.

Megan: 00:24:00

And then one day I texted my mom and I was like, Hey, what's

Megan: 00:24:03

Kirk's birthday time and location.

Megan: 00:24:05

She sent it over to me and I pulled his chart.

Megan: 00:24:08

And it was like seeing all of the gifts that he left

Shawna: 00:24:12

Mmm.

Megan: 00:24:13

with and like this knowing of oh, he lived his purpose, like every

Megan: 00:24:18

ounce and seeing it there, like seeing from him being a manifestor and like

Megan: 00:24:22

just doing the things like he did things like he randomly moved off to Spain and

Megan: 00:24:27

he was working at this coffee shop one time and just , decided I'm gonna close

Megan: 00:24:30

early and just paint the walls for them.

Megan: 00:24:32

he was always just.

Megan: 00:24:34

Doing these things.

Megan: 00:24:35

So like everything from that, and then seeing these contrasts within

Megan: 00:24:39

his strengths, like, learning and mastering, like science and

Megan: 00:24:42

different studies like that.

Megan: 00:24:43

And he was a physics major, but he also had these strengths in art and creativity

Megan: 00:24:47

and his minor was in photography.

Megan: 00:24:49

And so it was seeing all of these contrasts and ways that he lived and

Megan: 00:24:54

knowing like, oh, he lived all of that.

Megan: 00:24:57

What a gift.

Megan: 00:24:58

And now

Shawna: 00:24:58

Mm-hmm

Megan: 00:24:59

I see someone post a story about him on Facebook, or someone share an old

Megan: 00:25:03

photo or video of him, I just, I know he lived his design and I know that's the

Megan: 00:25:08

greatest gift you can leave on this earth.

Shawna: 00:25:12

That is amazing and what a great way to be connected to it,

Shawna: 00:25:15

to understand to see it magnified through someone you cared about.

Shawna: 00:25:19

And to know that they lived their purpose, cuz they were able to, do

Shawna: 00:25:21

those things in all those ways that were such an example of how they

Shawna: 00:25:25

were living that and being that.

Shawna: 00:25:26

I like that story.

Shawna: 00:25:28

so You have this exciting opportunity, that is coming up for you, with

Shawna: 00:25:32

your clients and the work you do.

Shawna: 00:25:34

Tell us more about that.

Megan: 00:25:36

Yeah.

Megan: 00:25:36

I've just opened up the doors to this super special program Rooted and

Megan: 00:25:40

Wild, which actually came alive back.

Megan: 00:25:42

In 2018 after I lost my brother, I was like navigating all many different things

Shawna: 00:25:48

Mm-hmm

Megan: 00:25:49

does it just surfaces up many emotions and memories and

Megan: 00:25:53

feelings and all of the things.

Megan: 00:25:55

And, uh, at the time I was living on another one way ticket at the

Megan: 00:25:58

time I was living in Thailand and.

Megan: 00:26:01

When he passed, I decided to get, grounded, get roots

Megan: 00:26:05

if you will, and get a home.

Megan: 00:26:07

And I was navigating all these stories like, oh, I failed.

Megan: 00:26:10

I failed the one way ticket trip.

Megan: 00:26:12

It wasn't supposed to be like this, you know, one day someone asked me,

Megan: 00:26:15

like, what does home mean to you?

Megan: 00:26:16

And it just came out.

Megan: 00:26:17

Like home sometimes is rooted and sometimes it's wild.

Megan: 00:26:21

And that's when this program started coming alive because

Megan: 00:26:23

I was like, oh, that's it.

Megan: 00:26:25

You have to know when you're being called to be rooted.

Megan: 00:26:28

And when you're being called to live wild and give yourself permission to

Megan: 00:26:32

not make that mean anything, and just let yourself live, let yourself live

Megan: 00:26:35

in both rooted ways and wild ways.

Megan: 00:26:37

And so this program came alive, um, and I'm very excited in 2022.

Megan: 00:26:41

It is now out into the world.

Shawna: 00:26:44

That is incredible.

Shawna: 00:26:45

And those, they take time.

Shawna: 00:26:46

Those things have to grow and get to the place where they can just

Shawna: 00:26:49

come to be in that level., I love the title and I love how much it reflects

Shawna: 00:26:53

the way you've lived your life.

Shawna: 00:26:55

To some extent, it sounds like the way your brother lived

Shawna: 00:26:56

his life as well, that he had

Shawna: 00:26:58

his moments where he was able to do both of those things also.

Shawna: 00:27:02

How can people connect with you and get connected to this?

Megan: 00:27:05

You can find me pretty much anywhere online with my name, Megan

Megan: 00:27:08

Seamans @MeganSeamans on Instagram.

Megan: 00:27:11

My website's MeganSeamans.com.

Megan: 00:27:13

So you can find me there.

Megan: 00:27:14

Instagram's my favorite place to hang out.

Megan: 00:27:15

So you can always find me sharing on stories and reels and, lots of fun tips

Megan: 00:27:20

and tricks, and you can find info for rooted and wild over there as well.

Shawna: 00:27:23

Ooh.

Shawna: 00:27:24

So we get to follow you on your adventures.

Megan: 00:27:26

Yes,

Shawna: 00:27:27

I love that.

Shawna: 00:27:28

I love that.

Shawna: 00:27:28

And we'll definitely have that in the show notes to make that easy

Shawna: 00:27:31

for you guys to find her as well.

Shawna: 00:27:32

And it's Seamans with an S at the end, too, the other thing that

Shawna: 00:27:35

we also talk about on our show is self care, cuz we care about that.

Shawna: 00:27:40

So what are some things that you do to take care of yourself?

Megan: 00:27:42

Hmm.

Megan: 00:27:42

I love this question.

Megan: 00:27:44

Selfcare is so important.

Megan: 00:27:46

Uh, oh my goodness.

Megan: 00:27:47

Let me give you a list of like a hundred things.

Megan: 00:27:49

No.

Shawna: 00:27:49

That works.

Shawna: 00:27:50

That works.

Shawna: 00:27:51

People need examples, cuz honestly it's something hard to fit in sometimes.

Shawna: 00:27:54

And so a hundred examples is a good thing.

Megan: 00:27:58

I love it.

Megan: 00:27:58

So my personal favorite self care is always gonna be getting outside in nature.

Megan: 00:28:02

Like it is incredible what, even just stepping outside barefoot, putting my

Megan: 00:28:07

feet in the grass for like 30 seconds can do that is always gonna be my all time.

Megan: 00:28:11

Favorite self care.

Megan: 00:28:13

I would say one of my other favorite self cares is working with the

Megan: 00:28:16

coach, working with someone who can give me outside perspective.

Megan: 00:28:22

I always feel good after a good coaching session and knowing

Megan: 00:28:25

like, oh, okay, I can do this.

Shawna: 00:28:29

Yes.

Shawna: 00:28:30

I don't think people recognize enough of doing that.

Shawna: 00:28:32

Like when I talk to my friends about finding a therapist, finding

Shawna: 00:28:35

a coach, finding that support, that really is "me" time that is you

Shawna: 00:28:38

taking care of yourself and nurturing yourself to give yourself that space.

Shawna: 00:28:43

Cuz we all have things to navigate and finding and

Shawna: 00:28:46

finding the time to quiet down.

Shawna: 00:28:49

If you have the discipline to do that on your own, that is amazing.

Shawna: 00:28:53

but it's, if you have a dedicated time each week or once a month, or whenever

Shawna: 00:28:57

you have that space to sit with somebody and do that reflection and do that,

Shawna: 00:29:01

adjusting your compass and, and having that focus and diving deep, that's an

Shawna: 00:29:05

amazing thing to be able to make time for.

Shawna: 00:29:07

So that's, that's incredible.

Shawna: 00:29:09

That's a great one.

Shawna: 00:29:10

Awesome.

Shawna: 00:29:10

Give us, give us one more.

Shawna: 00:29:11

Give us one.

Megan: 00:29:13

One more, one more.

Megan: 00:29:15

Let's see, I'll say another favorite self care is following my threads of joy.

Megan: 00:29:21

So sometimes that's gonna look like, you know, meditating for a bit and

Megan: 00:29:25

sometimes that's gonna look like going out to get my favorite donut.

Megan: 00:29:29

But whatever that thread of joy is for me in the moment

Megan: 00:29:32

is always gonna be self care.

Shawna: 00:29:34

I like it.

Shawna: 00:29:35

I like joy.

Shawna: 00:29:35

We like joy.

Shawna: 00:29:36

We like being in the moment.

Shawna: 00:29:37

That's

Shawna: 00:29:37

awesome.

Shawna: 00:29:38

So one things that we have, we actually have coloring books

Shawna: 00:29:42

that we offer that we sell.

Shawna: 00:29:44

And part of that is for folks to have something they can use to have

Shawna: 00:29:48

those little moments of self care.

Shawna: 00:29:50

And we.

Shawna: 00:29:50

All of our guests, a free coloring book.

Shawna: 00:29:53

Yay.

Shawna: 00:29:55

So since you travelling internationally, we're gonna send you the PDF copy.

Shawna: 00:29:59

And then when you get back stateside, you can always say, Shawna, send

Shawna: 00:30:02

me the physical copy and I sure

Shawna: 00:30:03

will.

Shawna: 00:30:04

But Would you like the Vintage Mermaid and Magnificent Ocean or the You've Got

Shawna: 00:30:09

This with funny inspirational quote?

Megan: 00:30:12

I'm gonna take vintage mermaid.

Shawna: 00:30:14

Awesome.

Shawna: 00:30:15

Well, I am definitely making note of that and we will send that

Shawna: 00:30:17

to you and you'll have to let us know what you think about that.

Megan: 00:30:20

This is so fun.

Megan: 00:30:22

I've never received a gift on a podcast.

Megan: 00:30:24

And I feel like I just wanna like cue confetti

Shawna: 00:30:27

I still remember when I lived in Boston, I used to

Shawna: 00:30:29

do workshops for families and for teachers and for different things.

Shawna: 00:30:34

And the first time I did one and they gave me a gift card to Barnes and noble,

Shawna: 00:30:37

it might have been for $10, but the first time they gave me a little, thank

Shawna: 00:30:40

you like that, I was over the moon.

Shawna: 00:30:42

I know they paid my agency.

Shawna: 00:30:44

That was my job.

Shawna: 00:30:45

Right.

Shawna: 00:30:45

And I got paid to go to these things.

Shawna: 00:30:47

But the first time I got a little thank you.

Shawna: 00:30:48

That was like, oh, so thank yous are.

Shawna: 00:30:52

I love thank yous and you're not getting paid to be here.

Shawna: 00:30:54

So you should at least get a thank you.

Shawna: 00:30:55

Right?

Megan: 00:30:57

oh my goodness.

Megan: 00:30:58

Yeah, this is so exciting.

Megan: 00:30:59

I literally feel like, Ugh, I, everyone go celebrate someone today

Megan: 00:31:02

because it is the best feeling.

Shawna: 00:31:04

the best feeling.

Shawna: 00:31:05

We'll take it, we'll take it.

Shawna: 00:31:06

And the big thing we like to do for all of our audience too, is

Shawna: 00:31:09

to give them something actionable that they can walk away with.

Shawna: 00:31:12

And so is there a way that people can find out what their human design is?

Shawna: 00:31:16

Is there some little piece of information they can take away from today that

Shawna: 00:31:19

they can go implement tomorrow or this afternoon into their lives?

Shawna: 00:31:23

Tell us.

Megan: 00:31:24

Yeah, absolutely.

Megan: 00:31:24

So you can get your human design online for free.

Megan: 00:31:28

You can literally just look up human design chart and you'll

Megan: 00:31:31

find several different places.

Megan: 00:31:32

You can input your birthday time and location, and you'll see your.

Megan: 00:31:37

Energy type, like the five types we talked about today, you'll see that, in writing.

Megan: 00:31:41

So you won't have to like decipher anything or anything like that.

Megan: 00:31:44

So you can pull that and start to integrate some of the things

Megan: 00:31:48

you heard in this episode today.

Megan: 00:31:50

And also I would encourage you to journal around what in your life

Megan: 00:31:54

feels like friction and what feels.

Megan: 00:31:56

Fun.

Megan: 00:31:57

So you're starting to kind of take that inventory of where am I using

Megan: 00:32:01

my energy in the most aligned way.

Megan: 00:32:03

And where am I maybe perhaps draining it out?

Shawna: 00:32:07

Oh, I love that.

Shawna: 00:32:08

All right.

Shawna: 00:32:08

So journaling, finding friction, finding fun, getting a little

Shawna: 00:32:13

more of that alignment.

Shawna: 00:32:14

And then it is that simple that once you know the words, human

Shawna: 00:32:18

design, you can just Google.

Shawna: 00:32:20

and go find your human design type.

Shawna: 00:32:22

You do need to know your birth time.

Shawna: 00:32:26

So strangely, if you're like me and you don't know that, and I don't have a mom

Shawna: 00:32:30

to easily ask, she's no longer with us.

Shawna: 00:32:32

So hopefully you have someone you can ask who knows easily, I'm gonna be

Shawna: 00:32:36

impressed with my dad knows I'm still.

Shawna: 00:32:38

I think even once I find it, I on my birth certificate, I'm still gonna.

Shawna: 00:32:41

Dad, do you know what time I was born?

Shawna: 00:32:43

He has four kids.

Shawna: 00:32:44

So I'm really gonna be surprised if he even knows if it's morning or night

Megan: 00:32:47

Yeah.

Shawna: 00:32:48

but he, he pro he probably does.

Shawna: 00:32:50

And then also looks silly, cuz I was surprised.

Megan: 00:32:52

And may I offer one more tip for your audience if they

Megan: 00:32:55

don't know the time of birth?

Megan: 00:32:57

Okay, cool.

Megan: 00:32:58

so if you don't know your time of birth and you're like, ah, I

Megan: 00:33:00

can't find it like, um, of course.

Megan: 00:33:02

Yeah.

Megan: 00:33:03

Look, see if you can get your birth certificate, there are public records.

Megan: 00:33:06

Like if you call your hospital, you were born out, so you absolutely can do that.

Megan: 00:33:09

You can also just sit with someone who knows human design and you can.

Megan: 00:33:14

Input different times of the day and see what lands with you, because at the end of

Megan: 00:33:18

the day, human design is coming back home to you and you're gonna know your way.

Megan: 00:33:24

So I will not be surprised if you were spot on and knew

Megan: 00:33:27

exactly what your type was.

Megan: 00:33:29

But yeah, you can sit with someone who does know human design and

Megan: 00:33:32

they can tell you like, oh, if it's this time, then this changes.

Megan: 00:33:35

If it's this time, then this changes.

Shawna: 00:33:39

Oh, nice.

Shawna: 00:33:39

Those tricky, tricky little lines.

Shawna: 00:33:41

That was wonderful.

Shawna: 00:33:42

So thank you so much, Megan.

Shawna: 00:33:44

This has been amazing.

Shawna: 00:33:45

It was a delightful to meet you.

Shawna: 00:33:46

And I think we've all learned a lot today, which has been wonderful.

Shawna: 00:33:49

Thanks for being here, Megan,

Megan: 00:33:51

Thank you so much.

Megan: 00:33:52

I'm so grateful

Shawna: 00:33:53

for the rest of you take care of you.

Shawna: 00:33:56

You're the only one of you that this world has got, and that means something