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Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:00:00

Have you ever caught yourself saying, oh. I'm just bad with money or rich people?

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:00:05

They're just Today we're cracking open the vault on money mindsets and helping you to realize that the things you say may affect the way you are more than you realize. Get ready to discover the hidden beliefs that might be keeping your bank account stuck in neutral. Whether you're drowning in debt or building your empire, this episode's game changing mindset tool could be your financial turning point. It does start with awareness and we're going to learn all about that, so let's dive in. Welcome to the Grit show where our focus is growth on purpose. I'm your host Shawna Rodriguez and I'm honored to be part of this community as we journey together with our grit intact to learn more about how to thrive and how to get the most out of life. It means a lot that you are here today. As you listen, I encourage you to think of who may appreciate the tidbits of knowledge we are sharing and to take a moment to pass this along to them.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:01:08

Everyone appreciates a friend that thinks of them and these conversations are meant to be shared and to spark even more connections.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:01:20

Christiane David is a dedicated financial coach and the co founder of Greenwealth Legacy, a business she built alongside her three sisters which I'm so excited to hear more about that. She is passionate about helping high achieving women gain confidence in managing their money because we all need support around that. She blends practical tools with mindset focused strategies to create lasting financial stability. She has a coaching framework that we're going to learn more about today that's ACCT- awareness, clarity, consistency and transformation. She empowers clients to embrace financial intimacy and transform their relationship with money through signature program the Sapphire Design. She guides clients to build habits, redefine their money stories and achieve their goals without feeling overwhelmed. Because sometimes you just say money or money mindset and we get overwhelmed. She also creates engaging content like courses, blogs and workbooks to inspire others to take control of their financial future because we all need more support around that.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:02:18

Thank you so much for being here today, Christiane. I'm so excited to talk to you more about this and help our listeners feel more connected to this.

Christiane David [: 00:02:25

Thank you so much for having me Shawna. It's so exciting and I appreciate this opportunity to be able to have this great conversation we're about to have.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:02:32

Yes, I think this is something that people don't talk about enough. I think that money is one of those taboo topics and it makes it so that people don't feel empowered around their money and their finances. I feel like they can actually impact their future and the things that they want with it.

Christiane David [: 00:02:51

Exactly. Like avoidance is the biggest thing that you'll see around money. I mean, it is money avoidance that come together all the time.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:03:00

So I love that you're doing this with your sisters, plural. Did you guys grow up in a home where you guys talked about this, or how did you guys arrive at having this business together?

Christiane David [: 00:03:10

Oh, I love that you asked this question, because no, we did not grow up talking about money. We did not grow up knowing anything about money at all. As a matter of fact, my mom is super proud of us that we do this. And she reminds us that all the time. She tells us how if she knew what we teach today, she would not be where she is, she'd be in a better position. But then I remind her that, mom, if you were in a different position, we probably wouldn't be money coaches today. So life happens as it does.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:03:37

It was part of the inspiration, right, to growing up and seeing what there was room for. So what instigated this opportunity and the development of Greenwealth legacy?

Christiane David [: 00:03:48

Yes. So we are actually immigrants from Cameroon, Africa, and we all came here together. In fact, there's six of us girls. But as you mentioned, I run the business with my sisters. There's only four of us running the business. So the four of us immigrated to America with my parents, and we came to the land of green, the American dream. Went to school, racked up all the credit card debts.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:04:15

Yes. That is part of the American. That is a secret part of the American dream that we don't really talk about.

Christiane David [: 00:04:21

Exactly. We did all the things you want to talk about. Any money mistakes, we made them. Because growing up in Africa, no financial literacy in school. In America, no financial literacy in school. So the level of ignorance is the same. And it just gets worse the older you get, because the older you get, the more you think you should know and you really don't know. And so we racked up all the debts.

Christiane David [: 00:04:42

As a matter of fact, one of my sisters actually had to file bankruptcy. But we were always together. So this level of ignorance and lack of knowledge, we kind of felt it together. And then as we got older and my sisters got married, we were like. We got to a point, we're like, okay, how long are we going to do this? Because as much as you want to blame the lack of knowledge, you are a grown up. You got to, like, realize, okay, so something is going off Here, Right. And we kind of came to that realization at the same time. So we were like, okay, first things first, we need to bring in more income so we can pay off debts.

Christiane David [: 00:05:19

Because that was a burden. And there's a very unhealthy relationship that the world has with debt. Right? So that is badge. You got to get rid of it. Okay, so we bring in more income. But the business that we started to bring in more income was getting us into people's finances. We were helping people pay off their mortgages. So as we are doing this amazing endeavor, people keep complaining they don't have money.

Christiane David [: 00:05:42

So they would buy a software that would help them pay off their mortgage in very short time. But in order for them to really enjoy that software, it's like a budgeting software that really is super useful. You can't buy that software if you don't have the money. And in order for you to buy the software, we have to approve you. So we knew they had money, but they were kept complaining about not having money. And also financially we're getting better, but it still felt overwhelming and the avoidance was still there. So we were like, something is off here. So I'm very into self awareness and growth mindset.

Christiane David [: 00:06:20

Right. I've always been that way since I was younger. So we dug deeper and we were like, okay, the technical part of the issue is being taken care of, but something is missing. And so doing some research, I was like, it's the mindset, it's the way we are viewing money that is affecting how we're managing it on a day to day basis. So that's when we realized we needed more than just helping people pay off their mortgages. We needed to help them have a better relationship with money. And that's when Green wealth legacy was born. Because we were like, we can get ourselves out of this.

Christiane David [: 00:06:51

Which we did. But that means there are more women out there that are feeling overwhelmed with their finances and not realizing that it's the relationship they have with their money that is affecting their emotions.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:07:03

Yes. And I realized for me, I was, I had the six figure job finally. And then I'm like, and yet things still aren't getting better. And it's like, what is this? And it was this thing of feeling like, okay, finally arrived and yet things aren't changing. And realizing there's so much more to it. And I feel like we're just set up for failure without having the literacy supports to start with to learn about these things. And then also the stories we all tell ourselves and the Beliefs that we have in these underlying pieces that kind of act against that. So it's amazing that you have each other to do this with.

Christiane David [: 00:07:39

It's really fun because we've been really close since we were younger. And so getting into business together has been the most fun we've ever experienced. Together is really fun. And also because it's not just that we decided we're going to get into business. It was really like a therapy for us. We got ourselves out of trouble. And so we decided if the four of us each experience our own money situation, there are so many more women out there that need the support. Right.

Christiane David [: 00:08:08

So having that purpose, that drive, oh, man, it's so fun working along your best friends to create something this magical for other women. Like, we just have fun every single day.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:08:19

That is incredible. That is incredible. And I love the story of how you came to realize that something more was needed. I think that that's how the best ideas come about, is you start doing this. Like, wait, this is solving this? But there's more there. And so you got into a deeper level of doing this and doing this work. So what type of things are you doing to support the people that you're working with?

Christiane David [: 00:08:44

Because we knew that money was just not enough to. It's not just about numbers. Right. It's so much more than that. So you can't just teach someone how to budget, because the work budget alone comes with so many emotions. So we have created a program where we cover your relationship, your emotional relationship with money at the same time as we help you with the practical stuff like paying off debts, budgeting the proper way, because there are different ways to budget that will bring more drama and taking care of your credit. So our program is actually broken down into four sections where you're dealing with your money mindset, and then you're dealing with your budget, where you're creating an aligned budget, and then you're living up to that, and then you're dealing with your debts. If you have debts, if you don't have that, but you want to leverage debt, you still need to have that education and then your credit, which is super important.

Christiane David [: 00:09:37

And that alone can be like a completely separate company, but we have separated it so that we can approach your money as a holistic within a holistic approach and just really help you round all of that up and have the most healthiest relationship you can have with your money and get rid of all the guilt and the shame and the drama.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:09:58

Yes, love that. Guilt, shame and drama are the things we Just need to peel off the top and get rid of so we can actually get down to addressing our needs and our dreams and building up what we want to be having instead of getting stuck behind each of those things. That's incredible. So how long do you guys been working together on this?

Christiane David [: 00:10:17

We have been. So just for the Green wealth legacy, two years. And obviously as I mentioned before, that we did the helping people with their mortgage and all the good stuff, but the four of us saying, okay, now we're for women. Two years, oh, that's wonderful.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:10:34

And that is quite a bit of time. And especially the way with business works to build up. You guys have been putting a lot in for two years. I'm sure we have.

Christiane David [: 00:10:41

And then it's been helpful that it's not just one of us, you know, it's the four of us. So we're like a really well oiled machine that we're like dispersing the energy in different places and accomplishing a lot in just one day. That's another advantage of working with your best friends.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:10:56

That really is. And then understanding where your guys's specialty powers are to be able to move things forward. Because it's a lot of work running a business, especially one that's doing all the pieces you guys are doing. Do different ones. If you specialize in the mindset piece or in the presenting piece or in the habits or the budgeting piece or how do you guys divide the work?

Christiane David [: 00:11:16

Actually, there's twins between us. I'm the youngest and right before me are the twins. And then the older sister, which is who is before the twins, she manages credit. She does all the things credit. And then the twins, we. There are numbers girls. So one is with the budget and the other one is with the debt. And I am the money mindset coach.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:11:36

Oh, I love that. So we get the money mindset coach with our conversation today. That's amazing. And where do you usually start with that? With the money mindset piece. Like what do you usually start with in that?

Christiane David [: 00:11:48

Awareness, which is actually one of the components of the framework that we created. Because awareness is where you want to start with everything in life, really. Like if you look at babies, and I love babies, this is a little weird, but I actually, I do like their little hands, their little feet. It's just really adorable. But when you notice babies, the older they get, the more awareness that develop. They're looking at their fingers, they're touching their face sometimes, you know, do babies have cuts on their faces because they don't know what to do with their fingers. And they look at their toes, they're looking at an area around them. So that's awareness.

Christiane David [: 00:12:26

They're realizing where they are, the situation in the universe. And that's important because that's how they get to be able to walk when they're becoming a toddler, because then they have adapted to where they are. So awareness is the key to get started. Always get to know where you are in relation to the world, to the environment, to the society that you live in.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:12:47

That's awesome. And I love the acronym is acct. So it's like kind of like accounting, abbreviation for accounting, but I'm being accountable. But you start with the A and you start with the awareness. And so is that just as simple as even looking at your bank accounts? Because some of us don't even want to look at our bank accounts. Is that like, as simple as that? So it's dependent on where you're at, what your first step of awareness might be.

Christiane David [: 00:13:10

Honestly, it really is that simple. And that's why we say, like, money has so many emotions, because then that's why we don't even look. I mean, there are people who don't even check their mailbox, like, every two weeks because they don't want to see any kind of bill coming in. Like, we really. I mean, and I know I used to be one of those. I was the best at the avoidance game. I would do anything to run away from any. From looking at any of my numbers.

Christiane David [: 00:13:38

So, yes, basic. Looking at your bank account every single day. Just look at it. What are you looking at? Right, you're looking at your transactions. Are there any surprises? Do you know what was supposed to come out? Do you know what was supposed to come in? Just know that. And check your bank account app. If you have multiple accounts, if you have different banking accounts, banking apps that you use, open them all up. Open your credit card application.

Christiane David [: 00:14:07

Don't be afraid of looking at your balance. It's okay. Just know what you're looking at. Your balance. Was there any charges on your credit card that you're not familiar with? You always want to be looking for surprises because scamming has gotten so much worse. And that's another reason why they're so successful, is because people are avoiding their finances. So you could be being scammed. And you don't even realize until it's so late.

Christiane David [: 00:14:32

We have one client we were working with, and she got an increase in her income. She got a raise, and she never even knew, like, for a full year, she didn't know she got an income increase. Yes. Like, it just sounds surreal, but it was real. So just look at your numbers. When you can be comfortable with that, you want to be comfortable. You want to look at it regularly. And get comfortable with looking without judgment.

Christiane David [: 00:14:59

Very important, because if you judge, you're giving really negative messages to your brain. So when you can get comfortable with the word with looking now, you can take different steps. Like, okay, what am I looking at? Why is this number here? Is this what I'm supposed to see? If it's not what I'm supposed to see, what do I want to see? Do I like this number? Like, if you make a purchase and you look at it and you're like, okay, do you like the amount of that purchase? Do you like the repercussions of you spending on money? Did I affect anything else? If the answer is no to any of these questions, what do you want to feel when you spend money? If you want to feel free, you want to feel elated, you want to feel excited when you spend money. So you got to look at, okay, what did I spend that money on? So it's a whole suit of questions you want to go through, but you want to do it progressively, not trying to cover this whole mindset situation all at once, because that's why it feels overwhelming. But just get comfortable with looking at your numbers and knowing what your credit card is looking like. How many credit cards do you have? Why do you have so many? If you do, why do you only have one? Do you like your credit score? What's affecting your credit score? Are you budgeting, or are you just making a list of numbers or list of bills? If you have any surprises that's coming up, can you afford it? These are things you want to be aware of, because that's what looking at your numbers will create. Because then you start looking like, my bank account doesn't have enough money. Maybe you need more income.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:16:28

Yes, maybe. Well, and interestingly, like you said daily, and I was like, wow, maybe movement for me to do it weekly.

Christiane David [: 00:16:36

You can start weekly.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:16:38

Like, daily is a lot.

Christiane David [: 00:16:41

It does feel that way. But the thing is, the reality is, it's almost like you want to shock your system. There is something about building habits one small thing at a time. But there's also a shock therapy you can create. So when you do it once a week, because you've avoided it for so long, Mm, that is not gonna feel comfortable. You're doing it enough to continue to feel less comfortable about it. If you're only looking. I'm not talking about a money date.

Christiane David [: 00:17:09

The money date is when you reconcile all your expenses with your income and all the good stuff. Right. So you spend some time there. But when I talk about looking, just being aware of your ins and out of your money, like having a really intimate relationship with your money. If you only do it once a week, it's enough for you to be like, this is not working. Because you're allowing so much time in between for those negative emotions to come back in and discourage you from doing the thing. But if you say, I'm going to look at my bank account every day for the next seven days, you're shocking yourself. But you're also allowing yourself to get comfortable with the idea of just looking.

Christiane David [: 00:17:43

Like, I'm just looking. There's no judgment. I don't have to change anything. I'm just looking.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:17:47

Just awareness. There you go. I love that. And then after you get the awareness, then you have to start moving towards the clarity and the consistency and eventually the transformation. Which is a journey.

Christiane David [: 00:17:58

It sure is. It takes a minute.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:18:02

Yes. And is that something you feel like it takes a long time, or once people start, like, getting on this journey, it takes less time than they think it will.

Christiane David [: 00:18:09

It takes less time than it would. But for some, it does feel like it takes more time. Because we live in a society that really glorifies instant gratification.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:18:22

Yes.

Christiane David [: 00:18:23

So because we glorify instant gratification, when someone tells you, I'm going to help you with your relationship with money, you're thinking, one, two, three, boom. I'm going to pay off my debt, my credit card score is going to go up, and I'm never going to be ashamed about money again. Not going to happen.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:18:39

It's a process.

Christiane David [: 00:18:40

It's a process, and that's what the program is. Four months. And we give you all the tools you need so that you build a very strong foundation, and then you can build on that and build on it. And it's a lifelong horse.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:18:54

Nice. Very nice. Yes. And you have. Because there's something that I noticed that when we first connected, that I actually got your mindset money map, which is like, one of the first steps of, like, starting to look at things and getting that awareness and looking at things. And I love that it, like, looked at habits and really, like, integrated. So mindset and then habits are part of doing that. Do you feel like that's one of the hardest parts of people's doing the habit work, or do you feel like the mindset is the thing that takes a bit first.

Christiane David [: 00:19:25

So the habit is the challenging part. So it's really great. Awareness is very shocking. So the first month. And that's why I love this mindset money map because it really shrinks the four month program into like a really simple document and like a tiny little version of it that just helps you to look at your money every day for a few minutes and introduces you to the concept that money does not need to be overwhelming. But it does take a minute. Because once you create awareness and you get past that shock of realizing where you're standing when it comes to your finances, then you want to build, you want to eradicate habits. That's also easy to do when you're going to get rid of bad habits.

Christiane David [: 00:20:06

Because of the awareness shock you receive, you easily stop spending in a way that doesn't feel good anymore. But now you want to fill your cup with really good money habits. And that's where we spend. So spend a little bit more time. Because adopting new habits is not as easy. I mean again, instant gratification makes you feel like, oh yeah, I'm going to just go to the gym tomorrow and like weight lift 20, 50 pounds. But do you have to have a process?

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:20:32

Yeah. And building it as habits is when it's actually be lasting change and actually make a difference. So that's an important piece of it.

Christiane David [: 00:20:41

I do want to add that part about making it lasting. That is one thing that was really important to me, my type of personality. I want to do something that's really good for me and I only do what's really good for me. I used to say I feed my soul when I was eating things that were not healthy for me. But now I'm like, no, my soul, even my soul wants the good stuff. And as soon as I discover something that's really good for me, I adopt it immediately. So that's my personality. I'm really good at just taking on things, but I'm one of the rare people that can do that.

Christiane David [: 00:21:12

Taking on new habits and making them last and become your routine and become your identity. It's a process. Right? And so it was really important to me that our program integrates a process that helps our clients or the women we work with just easily, effortlessly integrate these habits into their lives and keep them. And that's why mindset is so important, because you can see someone budget, but if they don't keep the habit, they can do it for a month or two and then it won't stick. So it's really Important that we have a portion of the program that really helps them dig into their mind, their emotions about how to create a space, a self loyalty that allows you to just adopt new habits because that's what's good for you and you love it.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:22:02

Yes. And how do you guys fit into the landscape? Because it feels to me like you guys are doing something pretty unique and being able to really connect with women where they're at and offer them support. So you have like this coaching and coaching framework and you have the signature program and that's the, is that the sapphire design program is the, the four month program, is that right?

Christiane David [: 00:22:25

Yes, it is, yes.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:22:27

But do you guys consider yourself financial coaches or advisors or like how exactly do you fit into the landscape of support with what you guys offer?

Christiane David [: 00:22:34

Oh, I'm so glad you asked that. So we're financial coaches, we're not financial advisors only because when we looked at the families we were working with before, the money really wasn't the problem. It was their mindset, their attitude, their perspective on money, on the society they lived in. It's like when you feel like you're living paycheck to paycheck, even when you make good income, you're thinking it's the society you live in. The economy is bad, gas is high, inflation is high, school is expensive. You just think of all these outside situations that are expensive and that make your situation hard. And so when you go to a financial advisor, he's going to tell you how to invest your money or she, they're going to show you how to invest your money. But how can you invest money that you already say you don't have?

Christiane David [: 00:23:30

So we want to show you that it's not about how much money you think you don't have, it's about how you're managing what you do have. How looking at it would help you see that you do have it. You probably have more than you think you do only if you have the proper relationship with the money. A financial advisor wouldn't do that for you because that's not what they do. They're very useful. But financial coaches, what we do, we wanted to help women at this level of their financial money management to just establish that healthy relationship. And then when they do that, they build self trust, they build confidence and they can even invest their own money on their own terms and don't have to see a financial advisor because investing money, the reason we give it to a financial advisor to do it is because we don't have the bandwidth to deal with the emotions. But if you can manage your money properly already, then you can manage all the emotions that come with investing.

Christiane David [: 00:24:27

Because it's a rough game out there. You want to be ready for that. And so just building the right emotions or allowing all the right emotions to take place and to give you the message you need to process the information, then you can even get into investing your own money. And you won't even need us.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:24:44

There you go.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:24:46

Won't even need. Just get to the right spot. It's really that prosperity mindset and that really seeing that you are more prosperous than you realize, you do have more potential than you realize. And you can manage this. And this is something you can control in your life and you can move it to that space is probably the most important step really is because that.

Christiane David [: 00:25:06

Knowledge will empower you to realize, I can make progress. I don't have to be stuck where I am. I can move past this. And prosperity is not something you acquire from getting a raise or income. Raise. Prosperity is emotion that you can generate. You can literally generate that emotion. It's all about what you're thinking about how you're interacting with the money you do have.

Christiane David [: 00:25:34

It's so interesting because I have broken down the financial woman in four sections. You have the financially unconscious woman, you have the financially biased woman, you have the financially conscious woman. And then you have the guilt free spender.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:25:53

Ooh.

Christiane David [: 00:25:54

So here's how I describe these four categories. So the financially unconscious woman, she has no idea that she even needs help. All she knows is that the economy is bad, Life is hard, money is hard to come around, whatever. And everybody else is in the same problem. Everybody has debt. It is what it is. We make it work. And she just lives no idea that that all that mindset is affecting the way she's handling her money.

Christiane David [: 00:26:22

She wishes she had better finances. She wishes she had more money.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:26:29

And was debt free. Yes.She wish she had that freedom.

Christiane David [: 00:26:30

Yeah, she was debt free. But she doesn't even know that that would do anything that's even attainable. And if you told her, girl, you need to see a financial coach, she'd be like, I have no idea what that means. Yeah, a lot of problems. The problem is the economy.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:26:44

Yes.

Christiane David [: 00:26:45

So that's financially unconscious. And then you move to financially biased woman who is like, you know, life is hard, economy is tough. Let me see. I'm going to try my best to watch my money. But she just says that and then whatever, she moves on to just keeping the same habits, spending money without planning. But she's very anxious about it. She has this idea that she could be better. She just doesn't know for sure.

Christiane David [: 00:27:16

She hears about financial literacy, so she knows she's not financially literate and she would say it, but she really doesn't even know where to start. So she has a little bit of reality check, like, okay, I really think I need some help, but I don't even know where do I even begin? But she says that. And then she just keeps going about her life. But it's like a recurring conversation she has with herself. Like, I think I, I could use some help, but you know, and she just keeps going. So she's in that limbo where she keeps saying the same thing, but she doesn't, you know, you see the difference between her and the financial unconscious woman. And then you move into the financially conscious woman who's like, I need all the help I can get. I need to budget.

Christiane David [: 00:27:52

So she makes a list of all her bills. I'm going to be really tough. I'm going to do what people see out there and I'm going to just make sure my money is tight. She makes the list of the bills. At the end of the month, she has an emergency with the, the tires of the car and she has to use the credit card. Can't believe I have to use the credit card again. And how come I don't have any more money in my bank account? What happened? How did this happen? And then she may even get to a point where she's like, I don't have enough money to pay this one bill, even though I knew I had this bill, bro. How did I even not have money now to pay for this bill? What happened? She didn't take in consideration that she stops at Starbucks every so often.

Christiane David [: 00:28:27

And let me tell you, I'm not telling you not to ever drink Starbucks because I love me some Starbucks. I don't drink anybody else's coffee. But she does that. And then she'll go out to eat a couple more times a week. She never included that in her budget. She just made a list of bills. So she knows she needs support. She knows she wants to support herself.

Christiane David [: 00:28:47

So she creates this budget. She has a money plan, but not very effective.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:28:52

Mm.

Christiane David [: 00:28:53

He has done some things. She's even looked into investing. But she, when the time came for her to take care of an emergency, she used a credit card. Didn't have any money in the bank, in the savings account. And then you have the guilt free spender who she knows her money. She's very Comfortable looking at her money. She has no problem with that. She knows about investing.

Christiane David [: 00:29:14

She knows about savings accounts. She knows about budgeting properly in alignment with her values. She has no mind drama about it. But she doesn't have any mind drama today. But tomorrow she does. She'll go on vacation. She saves for vacation, but then when she goes out on vacation, she overspends. And then when she comes back, she is like, man, I thought I had this money thing figured out, but she has a little bit of like, I went over budget and I'm not sure why, you know, and she has to, like, go back to her healthy money habits.

Christiane David [: 00:29:43

So she's doing a little bit of the yo yo thing where there's a little bit of like, okay, I know what I'm doing. I have a really good budget. I really know what I'm doing with my income, with my paycheck. I know how much is coming in, how much is going out, but there's a little bit of emotions, like unmanaged. And so when you have all these four different categories of women, there are different places, and you have to be able to meet them where they are to be able to help them through their journey to get to the next level. Because all these four women, they want to get to the next level. They want to move past this level, even the unconscious one. You just have to be able to support her where she's at.

Christiane David [: 00:30:24

And that's why, as you mentioned earlier, the mindset money map is like that one thing that's gonna, like, poke you a little bit and help you realize, okay, you could do. You could do the one thing, and then you can move past this phase of your life and create more prosperity. Because we were talking about that prosperity. When you're in that space, you only looking at what you don't have, and that's what takes away prosperity. But when you're focusing on what you do have, that's when you bring in that prosperity. That's why I was saying it's something you generate from within yourself. Because if you focus on gratitude and appreciation. And so at every level of these women, they can build that.

Christiane David [: 00:31:02

They can generate that by focusing on what they have and be conscious of that.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:31:08

That's beautiful. And I love that that's the place to start. And that mindset is such an important part of this work and what you're doing. And it really feels like that's the place where people don't realize it's an option to start there. And that awareness is that first step to get them where they. They need to be. And that's a really important piece for them to be able to figure that out. So I'm so excited about the work that you and your sisters are doing and how that can really change for these individual women to be able to see that they have the ability to be prosperous and they have the ability to have some effect and control over this.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:31:41

Especially when right now it feels like, yeah, the economy, everything else, everyone's in debt, like, what am I going to do? Like, I can just try to get through tomorrow. And so, like, no, this is something I can work on. This is something I can do something about, and that that's a good place to start. So that's so fabulous. I love this and I can't wait for everyone to hear, like, how they can reach you and get in touch with you guys and learn more about this work and being able to connect with you. But as we start to wind down, one thing we always do on the Grit show is we really talk about the self maintenance piece and what we do. Our self maintenance minute of what you do to take care of yourself. So I'm curious, Christiane, what do you.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:32:18

What do you do to take care of yourself? What would you be your self maintenance routine?

Christiane David [: 00:32:22

Okay, so two things that I like essential in my routine is journaling.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:32:28

Ooh.

Christiane David [: 00:32:29

And dancing.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:32:31

I love that.

Christiane David [: 00:32:32

So I journal sometimes twice a day or once a day, definitely once a day. Journal for myself, journal for my business, and journal for my finances. So when I have my money date once a week, I journal my emotions after that. And then I journal about what I want to feel, how whatever I just went through, you know, all the steps that I go through for my money date, how that made me feel, if it was good. Okay, so I dwell on that. And then I just really create appreciation and gratitude.

Christiane David [: 00:33:06

But if it wasn't a good feeling, then I allow the feeling. Right. And I journal about the feeling. And then I also create a space where I go back to prosperity by generating gratitude and appreciation. Because no matter what happens, there's always something to be grateful for.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:33:22

I love, I love this focus on, like, curiosity and allowing and lack of judgment or shame and gratitude being the focus. You are. You are my people. Everyone listening is like, this is. This is exactly how we feel and what we connect with. So this is so beautiful. I love every bit of it. And I love that you also have dancing.

Christiane David [: 00:33:40

I do. I dance multiple times a week. One thing I discovered was dancing is as good to your body As a massage. Oh, I didn't know that. And ever since I discovered that, I was like, well, hello. This is like, amazing. I love dancing. So we're definitely integrating that.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:33:57

And it's free and available wherever, whenever.

Christiane David [: 00:34:00

So, yeah, just try not to do it at the airport. But it's really hard.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:34:05

I think there's a story there. Is there a story there?

Christiane David [: 00:34:09

I just came back from out of town and I have my headphones in. And you know. You know when you're listening to that really good song and your body's just not moving without your permission? Yes, you do. So sorry.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:34:23

Sometimes you get. Yeah. Sometimes it's just there. It totally works. It's good to have music that makes you want to move. So very important to have that sometimes. I love it. And what do you think is like for our grit wit, what do you think is the one thing that we should kind of take away from our conversation today that everyone listening and that they can just start doing immediately?

Christiane David [: 00:34:43

Yes, I love that. So you can create awareness for yourself without judgment. Always remember that part. Awareness is not. Oh, I am really bad with money. That's not awareness. That's judgment. We don't want that.

Christiane David [: 00:34:59

That's not going to help us move forward. Awareness is how do I spend money? Let me look. Mm. And you just being curious. So think of awareness and think of curiosity and no judgment. Judgment. Free zone.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:35:14

Love that. So start getting that awareness. No judgment, just that awareness. That first step. I love that. And I love that too. As we learn how to connect to you, the mindset money map can help you have a guided way to kind of do that with that awareness. That's beautiful.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:35:29

So how do folks connect with you? What is the best way to connect with you?

Christiane David [: 00:35:33

Okay, so we've made it super simple. GreenWealthLegacy.com is our website. And then on all social platform, Greenwealth Legacy. That's it.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:35:43

I love it. When you could do like just done, done that. You found this one place that worked everywhere. So that just if you want to, wherever you are, that's where you are. So that connection's that simple. I love that. And if they want to get that mindset money map, is it best just to go to the website to get that or can they get off any platforms you can get that from?

Christiane David [: 00:36:03

Greenwealthlegacy.com/mmm.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:36:07

mmm. Love it. And we'll have that in the show notes so folks can easily get connected to that. Is there any other opportunities to get to know you better, hang out with you in any other ways anytime soon.

Christiane David [: 00:36:18

Oh, thank you for asking. We actually have a workshop coming up. Oh that we're gonna have. So if you want to get on the list for that, because we have a, we do have a wait list. It's going to be a one hour workshop. We're going to talk really straightforward about how to take control of your finances. So if you want to get on a waitlist for that, just get to our website. So the workshop is going to be about conquer your money stress, take control of your money.

Christiane David [: 00:36:45

And the link to get on the waitlist is going to be in the show notes.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:36:49

Perfect. We'll make sure. So if you want to get on that waitlist, just go to show notes and click on the link and you can get connected to do that. That'll be perfect. Thank you so much. That'll be wonderful. And thank you for being here. This has been such useful information and I love that we're starting with awareness and I love what you and your sisters are doing.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:37:04

You guys are such a gift.

Christiane David [: 00:37:05

Thank you so much. This was so fun. Yay.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:37:08

Good. Thank you for being here.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:37:13

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Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:38:00

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